Quest : Flow Batteries : Ideas

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Maxwell Hartman

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Date: 25 September 2019 13:51
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Thor Rigtrup Larsen

Date: 31 October 2019 17:06
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Following is a brainstorm from a group of energy storage experts and students at Nordbatt 2019 regarding boosts and blocks for flow battery technology. Maybe something in the list below will inspire your next project?


BOOSTS

Research funding EU + DK

Government incentives and regulation -> flow batteries

Largest so far is ¼ of regular Danish power plant

Housing customers

Magnetic coupled pumps

Vanadium can be used in close circuits

Mass production

New design with H2 & O2 molecules

Overall flow batteries are cheap

Long lifetime of +25 years

No heavy metals = green

Vanadium are robust

High fire safety

Organic flow batteries may be cheaper

Transparency of economy (CAPEX, OPEX)

General need for storage

Power blackouts

Metal-complexes, research potentials, (organic metallic)

Niche applications

Ownership

Materials abundancy

Plethora of possibilities

Recyclability

Interdisciplinary cooperation

Investigation of economy of scale


BLOCKS

Possibility for recycling of organic flow batteries unless you use the same material on both sides - stability

The supply of vanadium is a critical resource says the EU

Publicity < lithium batteries

Size inadequate or cars, trucks, busses, and motorbikes

Screening for redox potentials and solubility

Stability requires more experimental data

Cost of storage systems

Safety - toxic materials

Limited temperature operating range

Scale up

Production/availability

Lack of service organization


Thor Rigtrup Larsen

Date: 31 October 2019 17:07
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Following is a brainstorm from a group of energy storage experts and students at Nordbatt 2019 regarding questions that might inform future work for flow battery technology. Maybe something in the list below will inspire your next project?


QUESTIONS

How do we make students focus on flow batteries?

How can we achieve more publicity?

How can we get more funding?

How do we get more experts on the wagon?

How can we achieve mass production like Tesla’s Giga factory?

How do we get more research into organic flow batteries and not only vanadium redox batteries?

How do we make flow batteries fit into vehicles?

How do we achieve stability?

How might we increase durability?

How might we decrease the costs?

How can we convince investors to invest in flow batteries?

How can we use existing V-flow batteries to demonstrate new chemistries?

How can we assess stability intrinsically?

How can we access to best experts and software in organic synthesis/production?

How do we find risk willing first movers for demonstration?


Florian Lienert

Date: 30 June 2020 18:12
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https://www.humanitrack.org/labs/44/quest-flow-batteries-ideas-flow-batteries-for-space-habitats


Possibility of using redox flow batteries to power habitats on the moon or mars


Edited: 01 July 2020 15:51

Florian Lienert

Date: 01 July 2020 15:51
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https://www.humanitrack.org/labs/45/quest-flow-batteries-ideas-extraction-of-v-from-ccp-and-detection-reaction


Vanadium can be found in organic compounds, so it might be possible to extract it from coal combustion products. I also designed" an experiment with which you might be able to detect Vanadium in plant cells.


The post is kind of messy inter alia because I had to split it in two and remove the pictures and graphs but I hope it's still understandable.


Edited: 01 July 2020 15:51

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